CFU

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Postby Dave C. » Thu Aug 08, 2002 7:23 pm

I used the /points/edit points/ command and deleted 34 points at the end of
the file. I then ran... CFU/Update Drawing from CRD File with "Erase points
from drawing that are not in CRD file" checked. I took almost five minutes
to update the drawing? More below....

Command:
Command: CFU
Tested Entities> 7623 Points found> 3611


---------------------------
AutoCAD Message
---------------------------
Points Updated: 2163
Points Erased: 34
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

How were 2163 points updated? There are 3577 points in the file, with a
point number range from 1-6502. Is there a default box somewhere to
automatically delete points from the drawing, if you delete them from the
coordinate file? I guess I don't understand why it is an option. Why would
you ever wants points in your drawing file that had been deleted from the
project or CRD file? Do I have to do this process each time I delete points
from the CRD file? The updates are killing my computer...

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
Version 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 Build 2195
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name GEO16
System Manufacturer System Manufacturer
System Model System Name
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 10 GenuineIntel ~1708 Mhz
BIOS Version Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
Windows Directory C:\WINNT
System Directory C:\WINNT\System32
Boot Device \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
Locale United States
User Name GEOSURV\dcc
Time Zone Mountain Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 523,740 KB
Available Physical Memory 319,644 KB
Total Virtual Memory 3,085,408 KB
Available Virtual Memory 2,692,892 KB
Page File Space 2,561,668 KB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Page File D:\pagefile.sys

I've mentioned before that we work with some very large coordinate files
with 30,000 plus points. I'm not sure we can work with those files in
Carlson and AutoCAD. It seems weird because we never really have problems
working with the files in the data collector, even in dos mode, but when I
try to work with the files in AutoCAD on a 1.7Ghz machine, it's killing me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Dave Costner
GEOSURV Inc.
Dave C.
 

Re: CFU

Postby R.K. McSwain » Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:51 pm

Dave,

What is your coordinate file format, Alphanumeric or Numeric? Use numeric when possible (if you do not need letters and your highest point number < 32766).
What font is applied to the text style of your point attributes? If you are using TrueType fonts, then any type of screen update will be 10 to 20 times slower.

Let us know about these two things.


----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software
http://www.carlsonsw.com
http://www.cgss.com
http://www.simsystems.com
Phone: 606.564.5028, 800.989.5028
Fax: 606.564.6422, 606.564.9525
----------------------------


"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message news:aiu21p$hsj$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
I used the /points/edit points/ command and deleted 34 points at the end of
the file. I then ran... CFU/Update Drawing from CRD File with "Erase points
from drawing that are not in CRD file" checked. I took almost five minutes
to update the drawing? More below....

Command:
Command: CFU
Tested Entities> 7623 Points found> 3611


---------------------------
AutoCAD Message
---------------------------
Points Updated: 2163
Points Erased: 34
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

How were 2163 points updated? There are 3577 points in the file, with a
point number range from 1-6502. Is there a default box somewhere to
automatically delete points from the drawing, if you delete them from the
coordinate file? I guess I don't understand why it is an option. Why would
you ever wants points in your drawing file that had been deleted from the
project or CRD file? Do I have to do this process each time I delete points
from the CRD file? The updates are killing my computer...

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
Version 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 Build 2195
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name GEO16
System Manufacturer System Manufacturer
System Model System Name
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 10 GenuineIntel ~1708 Mhz
BIOS Version Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
Windows Directory C:\WINNT
System Directory C:\WINNT\System32
Boot Device \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
Locale United States
User Name GEOSURV\dcc
Time Zone Mountain Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 523,740 KB
Available Physical Memory 319,644 KB
Total Virtual Memory 3,085,408 KB
Available Virtual Memory 2,692,892 KB
Page File Space 2,561,668 KB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Page File D:\pagefile.sys

I've mentioned before that we work with some very large coordinate files
with 30,000 plus points. I'm not sure we can work with those files in
Carlson and AutoCAD. It seems weird because we never really have problems
working with the files in the data collector, even in dos mode, but when I
try to work with the files in AutoCAD on a 1.7Ghz machine, it's killing me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Dave Costner
GEOSURV Inc.

R.K. McSwain
 

Re: CFU

Postby Dave C. » Thu Aug 08, 2002 10:06 pm

Thanks for the reply Randall. The coordinate file is set to "Numeric Only"
here is the block listing for the point format...

BLOCK REFERENCE Layer: "PNTS"
Space: Model space
Handle = 3D5
Group = *A2
"SRVPNO2"
at point, X= 5230.38 Y= 5247.24 Z= 0.00
X scale factor 0.80
Y scale factor 0.80
rotation angle E
Z scale factor 0.80

ATTRIBUTE Layer: "PNTNO"
Space: Model space
Handle = 3D6
Style = "PTXT"
Font file = TXT
start point, X= 5231.58 Y= 5247.84 Z= 0.00
height 0.80
value 2
tag PT#
rotation angle E
width scale factor 1.00
obliquing angle 0d0'0"
flags normal
generation normal

ATTRIBUTE Layer: "PNTELEV"
Space: Model space
Handle = 3D7
Style = "PTXT"
Font file = TXT

Thanks,
Dave Costner
GEOSURV Inc.



"R.K. McSwain" <notachance@thisdomain.org> wrote in message
news:aiual9$k1j$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Dave,

What is your coordinate file format, Alphanumeric or Numeric? Use
numeric when possible (if you do not need letters and your highest point
number < 32766).
What font is applied to the text style of your point attributes? If you
are using TrueType fonts, then any type of screen update will be 10 to 20
times slower.

Let us know about these two things.


----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software
http://www.carlsonsw.com
http://www.cgss.com
http://www.simsystems.com
Phone: 606.564.5028, 800.989.5028
Fax: 606.564.6422, 606.564.9525
----------------------------


"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:aiu21p$hsj$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
I used the /points/edit points/ command and deleted 34 points at the end
of
the file. I then ran... CFU/Update Drawing from CRD File with "Erase
points
from drawing that are not in CRD file" checked. I took almost five
minutes
to update the drawing? More below....

Command:
Command: CFU
Tested Entities> 7623 Points found> 3611


---------------------------
AutoCAD Message
---------------------------
Points Updated: 2163
Points Erased: 34
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

How were 2163 points updated? There are 3577 points in the file, with a
point number range from 1-6502. Is there a default box somewhere to
automatically delete points from the drawing, if you delete them from the
coordinate file? I guess I don't understand why it is an option. Why
would
you ever wants points in your drawing file that had been deleted from the
project or CRD file? Do I have to do this process each time I delete
points
from the CRD file? The updates are killing my computer...

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
Version 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 Build 2195
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name GEO16
System Manufacturer System Manufacturer
System Model System Name
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 10 GenuineIntel ~1708 Mhz
BIOS Version Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
Windows Directory C:\WINNT
System Directory C:\WINNT\System32
Boot Device \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
Locale United States
User Name GEOSURV\dcc
Time Zone Mountain Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 523,740 KB
Available Physical Memory 319,644 KB
Total Virtual Memory 3,085,408 KB
Available Virtual Memory 2,692,892 KB
Page File Space 2,561,668 KB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Page File D:\pagefile.sys

I've mentioned before that we work with some very large coordinate files
with 30,000 plus points. I'm not sure we can work with those files in
Carlson and AutoCAD. It seems weird because we never really have problems
working with the files in the data collector, even in dos mode, but when I
try to work with the files in AutoCAD on a 1.7Ghz machine, it's killing
me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Dave Costner
GEOSURV Inc.

Dave C.
 

Re: CFU

Postby R.K. McSwain » Thu Aug 08, 2002 10:23 pm

Well, assuming that the TXT font is the SHX type and not the TTF (truetype) type, then you are OK as far as those two things go.

The points updated message is telling you that it moved 2163 points to the correct location in the drawing as per the CRD file.

If you want, email me the CRD file and drawing and I will test the speed on a variety of machines.


"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message news:aiubjq$k93$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks for the reply Randall. The coordinate file is set to "Numeric Only"
here is the block listing for the point format...

BLOCK REFERENCE Layer: "PNTS"
Space: Model space
Handle = 3D5
Group = *A2
"SRVPNO2"
at point, X= 5230.38 Y= 5247.24 Z= 0.00
X scale factor 0.80
Y scale factor 0.80
rotation angle E
Z scale factor 0.80

ATTRIBUTE Layer: "PNTNO"
Space: Model space
Handle = 3D6
Style = "PTXT"
Font file = TXT
start point, X= 5231.58 Y= 5247.84 Z= 0.00
height 0.80
value 2
tag PT#
rotation angle E
width scale factor 1.00
obliquing angle 0d0'0"
flags normal
generation normal

ATTRIBUTE Layer: "PNTELEV"
Space: Model space
Handle = 3D7
Style = "PTXT"
Font file = TXT

Thanks,
Dave Costner
GEOSURV Inc.



"R.K. McSwain" <notachance@thisdomain.org> wrote in message
news:aiual9$k1j$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Dave,

What is your coordinate file format, Alphanumeric or Numeric? Use
numeric when possible (if you do not need letters and your highest point
number < 32766).
What font is applied to the text style of your point attributes? If you
are using TrueType fonts, then any type of screen update will be 10 to 20
times slower.

Let us know about these two things.


----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software
http://www.carlsonsw.com
http://www.cgss.com
http://www.simsystems.com
Phone: 606.564.5028, 800.989.5028
Fax: 606.564.6422, 606.564.9525
----------------------------


"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:aiu21p$hsj$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
I used the /points/edit points/ command and deleted 34 points at the end
of
the file. I then ran... CFU/Update Drawing from CRD File with "Erase
points
from drawing that are not in CRD file" checked. I took almost five
minutes
to update the drawing? More below....

Command:
Command: CFU
Tested Entities> 7623 Points found> 3611


---------------------------
AutoCAD Message
---------------------------
Points Updated: 2163
Points Erased: 34
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

How were 2163 points updated? There are 3577 points in the file, with a
point number range from 1-6502. Is there a default box somewhere to
automatically delete points from the drawing, if you delete them from the
coordinate file? I guess I don't understand why it is an option. Why
would
you ever wants points in your drawing file that had been deleted from the
project or CRD file? Do I have to do this process each time I delete
points
from the CRD file? The updates are killing my computer...

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
Version 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 Build 2195
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name GEO16
System Manufacturer System Manufacturer
System Model System Name
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 10 GenuineIntel ~1708 Mhz
BIOS Version Award Medallion BIOS v6.0
Windows Directory C:\WINNT
System Directory C:\WINNT\System32
Boot Device \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
Locale United States
User Name GEOSURV\dcc
Time Zone Mountain Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 523,740 KB
Available Physical Memory 319,644 KB
Total Virtual Memory 3,085,408 KB
Available Virtual Memory 2,692,892 KB
Page File Space 2,561,668 KB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Page File D:\pagefile.sys

I've mentioned before that we work with some very large coordinate files
with 30,000 plus points. I'm not sure we can work with those files in
Carlson and AutoCAD. It seems weird because we never really have problems
working with the files in the data collector, even in dos mode, but when I
try to work with the files in AutoCAD on a 1.7Ghz machine, it's killing
me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Dave Costner
GEOSURV Inc.




R.K. McSwain
 


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