Freezing / thawing ALL points in a DWG

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Freezing / thawing ALL points in a DWG

Postby Pin Cushion » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:46 pm

I am using CARLSONv2012|iCAD.

I have all my points and symbols on different layers. I use PNT- layers for points and have my symbols on the layer that corresponds to the feature they locate, DI symbol is on V-Drain... DI point is on PNT-Drain (all point data PNEZD are ALL on PNT- Layers).

SO... when I freeze all points(from the point pull down menu) my symbols also disappear, But I do not want the symbols to disappear. I can go to my Layer Manager and freeze all the PNT layers, thus leaving the symbols but I was wondering if there is an easier way to freeze all my PNT layers :?: OR just leave the symbols when using the freeze point feature :?:


I had a freeze/thaw custom button on my last software that would freeze the layers I wanted, is that do able with iCAD :?:
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Postby Dent Cermak » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:11 pm

The symbols are associated with the points. There is a work-around. Run your field to finish with the points, lines and symbol boxes checked. Now erase all of the points. (ByeBye symbols !!) Now, rerun field to finish with only lines and symbols checked. Now you can import the points with "Draw/Locate points" and turn stuff on and off without the symbols going away.
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Postby Pin Cushion » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:20 pm

... I bet there is an LISP for freezing certain layers :twisted:
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Postby Dent Cermak » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:57 pm

Only advantage in Intellicad is that it uses LISP. (But then, if you do what I said, you won't really need that lisp routine.)
If you need custom lisp routines, the BEST source is a site called theswamp.org - www.theswamp.org . There are people there that will write a routine up for you, send you copies of what they have or teach you how to do it. Probably one of the best sites on the internet.
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Postby Nava Ran » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:49 pm

Points>Points Defaults
Separate Layers-->Check on Both
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Postby Dent Cermak » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:00 pm

That does not always work in my Survey 2010. Believe me, I have tried.
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Postby Pin Cushion » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:14 pm

DON'T WORK IN 2012 EITHER
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Postby Dent Cermak » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:44 pm

The ONLY way that I have found to do it is to bring in the blocks separately as I outlined above. True, when you erase points, you can answer "NO" to the second prompt about erasing symbols and that does work, BUT, if you ever forget and selct "Yes" a couple of days later all of your blocks will be gone. You may not notice it. Your client will. Boy!! Will they ever!! :oops:
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Postby Nava Ran » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:23 am

Settings>Carlson Configure>General Settings>Object Linking
Group Points Entities-->Check off Group Points Entities
Works for me also in Carlson 2010
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Postby Dent Cermak » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:18 pm

No joy there either. i am running the latest build of Carlson Survey 2010 with embedded AutoCad and I unchecked the box "Group point entities", ran field to finish, erased the points and watched all of my symbol blocks go bye-bye.
As I said before, if I say "NO" to the second option "erase point entities" of the erase point command, the blocks stay in place, BUT if you ever erase points and answer "YES" to that second option, you are screwed. The ONLY way I have found so far to keep my blocks in place is to run field to finish twice as I outlined initially.
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Postby Pin Cushion » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:36 pm

...the way i do it is open Layer explorer, and freeze all PNT layers.

You would think it would be a command... like FREEZE>layer>PNT*
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Re: Freezing / thawing ALL points in a DWG

Postby gskelhorn » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:17 pm

Pin Cushion wrote:I am using CARLSONv2012|iCAD.

I was wondering if there is an easier way to freeze all my PNT layers


The layer command will do this for you. To run it from the command line:

-la <enter>
f <enter>
PNT* <enter>
<enter>

similarly to thaw all PNT layers:

-la <enter>
t <enter>
PNT* <enter>
<enter>

You can create a toolbar button with the command (see Intellicad help about Customizing Toolbars):
^C^C_-LAYER;_F;PNT*;;

Have fun!
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Postby Nava Ran » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:35 pm

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Postby Dent Cermak » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:03 pm

I got out the popcorn and everything but the movie does not play!!
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Postby Pin Cushion » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:58 pm

got my custom buttons created... works like a charm.

Thanks so much gskelhorn
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